8th Degree Magickal Initiation

The higher degrees of magickal initiation invariably talk more and more about the mysteries of sex magick. It is worth noting that the 8th degree also carries administrative functions such as the chartering and administration of a "Temple" and giving the higher degree initiations up to the 8th.

The 8th degree initiate is becoming much more involved with group energy dynamics and magickal group energy workings. This means magickal progress is two fold. It is both individual and group.

It is nearly impossible to give a rational comment of this degree. Crowley talks around the subject of "Gods" having relations with "mortals" and of how various cultures and religions have talked around this same subject.

He attempts to give historical credibility to the notion of some type of sexual relations and activity between non-physical beings such as God/desses, Incubi/Succubi, fairies. The obvious intent is to illustrate the importance of certain types of "Astral Dreams" that involve not only a sexual element but culminate in the "birth" of an "astral child" or "babe of the abyss".

The adept is said to beget a child upon the great Goddess herself.

I had this experience over fifteen years ago shortly after crossing the Great Abyss. It was the beginning of what I have called "soulmate" cycles and what Crowley called "Scarlet Women" experiences in which seven astral bodies or vehicles were created over a period of several years. One astral body was created is a cycle with one of the seven women.

I was at the time working with Mantak Chia's method of cultivating sexual energy and am living proof that his method works as well as Crowley's methods. My generation of sexual/bio-electrical energy pulled me into "astral relations" with actual living people that had chakra energies compatable with my own. The result was the mutual creation of astral bodies for both of us developed out of that shared energy. I did not have physical sexual relationships with most of them as this was not needed.

The birth of an astral child was the very vivid birth of a living baby complete with an umbilical cord and covered with some blood. That astral child became the new dwelling place for my awareness. It was the birth of what I call a "permanent astral body" created out of soulmate energy. Or perhaps the birth of the "Immortal" astral body.

Previous to this happening I had developed an astral body with that type of energy out of "collective" or "group" energy. The creation of an astral body out of "group" or "collective" energy always precedes the "birth" of an astral body out of "soulmate" energy.

The bottom line here is that this has happened throughout history in all cultures and within all religions.

The 8^th degree initiate is to form sexual relations with one of these "non-physical" entities in the hopes of creating such a "child". Crowley suggests using "Elementals" to begin with. I find much of this rather bizarre since my own "succubis" type experiences turned out to be astral encounters with women that physically existed and that I had some type of connection to. My encounters were "spontanious" and not chosen. The energy seemed to build until it leapt like a lightning strike to find a suitable astral companion.

Thus my experience here differs widely from what Crowley suggests. I believe there is no need for the concept of elementals, fairies , succubus and such to explain a natural and purely mechanical process that is automatically driven by the daily generation of sexual/bio-electrical energy.

Simply put we share energy astrally with a magickal partner that is compatable to us and something grows inside both of us because of this experience. The energy in time grows into a permanent astral body of that type of energy.

Lastly the initiate is warned that this process can't be lightly undertaken since it is attempting to reverse the very energies of life itself. If we stop we leave ourselves wide open for disaster since we are working with the substance of our very core. If we falter or reverse ourselves there is no protection that can help us. We are totally vulnerable to this energy we have created. If we allow it to turn evil it will mean disaster for us. This is similar to how a created thought form left on it's own will become malevolent.

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